FTC warns PC manufacturers Asrock, Zotac, and Gigabyte that consumers have the right to repair

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Why it matters: Even though federal and many state laws give consumers the right to repair products they have purchased, manufacturers like to control the repair process because it provides a significant revenue stream. The Federal Trade Commission tries to stay on top of illegal practices such as warranties that are voided if someone else has repaired an item, but there are a slew of legal actions manufacturers take that make consumer repairs as difficult as possible.

The right to repair movement may be gaining traction, with several states passing laws that force companies to improve the repairability of their products, but a trio of letters the Federal Trade Commission just sent to firms that market and sell gaming PCs, graphics chips, motherboards, and other accessories show that resistance by manufacturers is as strong as ever.

The Federal Trade Commission staff has sent letters to Asrock, Zotac, and Gigabyte warning that their warranty practices may be violating consumers' right to repair products they have purchased. Namely, the commission singled out the use of stickers containing "warranty void if removed" or similar language as illegal. These are usually placed on products in such a way that makes it difficult for consumers to perform routine maintenance and repairs on their products, the FTC said.

"These warning letters put companies on notice that restricting consumers' right to repair violates the law," said Samuel Levine, Director of the FTC's Bureau of Consumer Protection. "The commission will continue our efforts to protect consumers' right to repair and independent dealers' right to compete."

The letters told the manufacturers to change their warranties and review customer support practices.

Illegal warranties are just the tip of the problem, consumer advocates say, as manufacturers try all sorts of tactics to control the repair process – and these tactics are working. Americans waste $40 billion each year from not being able to repair products, according to a report by the US PIRG, a public-interest research group. That comes to about $330 per household annually.

"It's getting harder for people to buy things that are repairable. The problem is getting worse, much worse," said Gay Gordon-Byrne, executive director of the Repair Association, a small lobbying group that advocates for independent repair shops.

One example is the use of components that are glued or soldered together.

"Ten years ago you could slide off the back of the phone, and pop out the battery," said Olivia Webb, spokesperson for iFixit, a parts retailer and online community dedicated to repair. "Now, they are adhered with screws, battery pull tabs, some of them are glued in. People don't want you to replace your battery – they want you to buy a new phone."

Christine Datz-Romero, executive director of the Lower East Side Ecology Center in New York, noted that with laptops, both the memory and the hard drive are often incorporated into the motherboard, making it impossible to swap out.

"You're hitting a point where you cannot upgrade your technology anymore. And I think that is another way of forcing people to buy a new machine instead of upgrading an old machine," she said.

Proprietary screws are another example. Disassembling the iPhone 12 requires four different types of screwdrivers, according to Hugh Jeffreys, an advocate of the Right to Repair movement.

Manufacturers are also not shying away from engaging in outright illegal practices that the FTC has called out. For example, many companies still have warranties that are voided if anyone, except the company that made the product, has repaired it.

A few years ago the FTC warned six companies against such void-warranty language. The recipients were eventually revealed to be Asus, HTC, Hyundai, Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony Computer Entertainment.

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Sounds like it's time for the FTC to lower the boom on these and other manufacturers that don't recognize the "right to repair" of their equipment. I would include auto mfg. like Tesla in this as well.
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?
Pardon sir, I have 30 years of IT engineering experience. If it's exposed on the PCB, it can be repaired.
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?
Just because you can't handle a screwdriver doesn't mean most us can't.
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?

Perhaps because it was easier to pay for a replacement fan on a GPU and not deal with the downtime of shipping it off? Many reasons why someone would prefer to just pay the cost to complete some minor repair than to deal with the headache of dealing with customer support.
 
Just because you can't handle a screwdriver doesn't mean most us can't.
Putting a motherboard in isn't repairing a motherboard, it's replacing it, which why would you do yourself if your warranty covers it? That'd be idi0tic. Sure, after the warranty is expired, by all means replace at your hearts content.
 
Combine the whole 'replace the device' push with the general lack of easy access to device recycling services, and companies are just pushing us into more and more landfill waste. It's disgusting.
I have replaced capacitors on motherboards because they were swelling. Swapped sticks of RAM out, because I need more or a stick went bad. Soldered in RAM might be faster in some cases, but at the expense of repairability it's just not a good option.
 
Combine the whole 'replace the device' push with the general lack of easy access to device recycling services, and companies are just pushing us into more and more landfill waste. It's disgusting.
I have replaced capacitors on motherboards because they were swelling. Swapped sticks of RAM out, because I need more or a stick went bad. Soldered in RAM might be faster in some cases, but at the expense of repairability it's just not a good option.
CAMM is a good balance of the two now.
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?

Know how we know you didn't work on computers in the 70's and 80's?
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?

I'll add to what's already been said in response to your post...

First, the stickers are intentionally misleading to gaslight people into buying new stuff when a repair shop could perform a fix in no time and at lower costs (if the fix is outside what the warranty covers). This should be illegal.

Second, manufacturers would love to void warranties even if you had the product repaired by a professional who is not employed by said manufacturers. So, whether the end user is able to perform the repair themself is irrelevant.

I have been waiting for over a month for a manufacturer to send me replacement fans for a PC case I bought recently. In the initial response to my warranty claim, they said they would ship the replacements within 3-5 business days. After several follow-ups, they're still telling me over a month later that they'll let me know when the parts have shipped. In the meantime, somebody else in my situation may have been able to fix the issue themselves by applying some oil on the faulty fan bearings.

Either way, the point you're missing is that people have the right to repair the stuff they bought and own. At the same time, people should have a reasonable expectation of quality when buying a product. Planned obsolescence is a thing when it shouldn't be.

Finally, the way to ensure people use warranty instead of fixing things themselves is by providing proper warranty services; and not by putting misleading stickers on products that lie about warranty voidance when performing routing maintenance (e.g., like re-pasting a GPU).
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?

There are plenty of reasons why someone might want to open up a still under warranty laptop; adding RAM, adding another NVME drive, simply dusting out the fans, all common enough activities that people should be able to do without worrying about the manufacture denying a warranty claim due to a broken sticker latter.
 
"These letters were issued to ASRock, Zotac, and Gigabyte, companies that market and sell gaming PCs, graphics chips, motherboards, and other accessories."

The fact that the FTC somehow thinks that the three manufacturers sell "graphics chips" is rather telling, as in, clueless bureaucrat. They make, market, and sell graphics _boards_ that you install in your PC. I'm rather certain you can't buy an AD102 directly from any of the three.
 
Pardon sir, I have 30 years of IT engineering experience. If it's exposed on the PCB, it can be repaired.
I myself don't have 30 years in the IT industry but I do have 50 years of Electronic Hobiest Experience and I'm quite capable of replacing a failed capacitor/vrm or other component on a board. So to me, those stickers are flat out a sign that the manufacturer doesn't respect our purchase and will go out of their way to dishonor any warranty claim. Remember the flack with Asus and Gamers Nexus? Yep, same issue. If I'm spending as much for a board that has no warranty support then one that does, who's am I going to buy? It sure as hell isn'g going to be the crap that says you fix it, you get no warranty while charging for that warranty.

Now tell me the board is sold as-is without warranty and discount it enough, I may actually buy it even if it doesn't work correctly simply because I can fix it and yes, the goes as far as diving into the bios/uefi firmware and replacing buggy/flaky code - either with what I'm able to write or at least something from the Open Firmware Folks.
 
You mean like all those laws Microsoft breaks telling you you have to use them,and they don't do it. Or they send viruses and malware to attack their own products...... How about you can't use third party software and they don't make what you need to make it work right? .... Their tech center has intentionally sent me software that damaged my hardware because they didn't like my.personal use of the computer....... the list goes on. It's an illegal game and M.S. doesn't have to follow the laws.
 
Ya'll gonna solder on your own transisters to mobos or something? There is literally nothing on a motherboard that a consumer will ever in a bazillion years be able to fix on their own, so it's not that the 'void if removed' stickers are illegal, it's that they are pointless.

***Also, the warranty should be voided if removed, because it is not the manufacturer's responsibility to fix something that someone else effed up when you tried to get it repaired. Also, if it is still under warranty, why would anyone repair it themselves at their cost when the manufacturer would do it for free, hence the word warranty?
I spent years repairing old motherboards and daughter cards that can't be replaced, so yeah we replace pretty much any component on a PCB.
 
I really want an industry-wide standardization of right to repair via Modular & DIY Repairable designs & features.
 
I spent years repairing old motherboards and daughter cards that can't be replaced, so yeah we replace pretty much any component on a PCB.
I myself don't have 30 years in the IT industry but I do have 50 years of Electronic Hobiest Experience and I'm quite capable of replacing a failed capacitor/vrm or other component on a board. So to me, those stickers are flat out a sign that the manufacturer doesn't respect our purchase and will go out of their way to dishonor any warranty claim. Remember the flack with Asus and Gamers Nexus? Yep, same issue. If I'm spending as much for a board that has no warranty support then one that does, who's am I going to buy? It sure as hell isn'g going to be the crap that says you fix it, you get no warranty while charging for that warranty.

Now tell me the board is sold as-is without warranty and discount it enough, I may actually buy it even if it doesn't work correctly simply because I can fix it and yes, the goes as far as diving into the bios/uefi firmware and replacing buggy/flaky code - either with what I'm able to write or at least something from the Open Firmware Folks.

Theses stickers are also on hard drives that are assembled in dust free clean rooms sometimes there are reasons for the stickers, I doubt that you can find replacements for the platters in a hard drive
 
Theses stickers are also on hard drives that are assembled in dust free clean rooms sometimes there are reasons for the stickers, I doubt that you can find replacements for the platters in a hard drive
No, but you can fix the board or replace it and that is the cause of many HD problems.
 
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